by havoc [ posted: 29.Nov.2006 08:09 AM ] [dura-link][Print]
Barry Carey at withallyourmind
makes the great point about being a Theistic Realist
. I like it. I like it very much.
I only differ in that I do not claim that I have some knowledge which is wholly exclusive of naturalism. I can make inferences
. From naturalism, logic, math, observation and philosophy I have very strong reasons to infer that there is a God. I can look at the historicity of the New Testament and conclude that they are real and reliable, that Jesus was a real person in a real body who did and said real things which have been passed down reliably. None of this is supernatural -- even the secular historians plainly record "wonders."
I can look to the best science which says the universe started some 12-15 billion years ago with a very finely tuned, finite beginning (i.e. "big bang"), and I can conclude that whatever caused that was, by definition, super natural (because whatever caused it was beyond
the universe... beyond nature).
I can, furthermore, test the creation stories of all religions, and I find that only the Genesis account is the least similar to the big bang theory, and I find that it would be an accurate description for an author writing 3400 years before the discovery of the expanding universe.